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nago
Inscrit le 07/01/2007 |
# 27 janvier 2008 22:04 | |
Nouveau gouvernement en premier, après on verra ce qu'il peut y avoir dans "l'air"  |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 27 janvier 2008 22:47 | |
Oui, nago ! Ce qui confirme ce que nous avons toujours dit : affaire politique, à l'italienne !  "The Fat Lady's still singing ! " |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 28 janvier 2008 23:23 | |
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Ha, ha ! Ho, Ho ! "The Fat Lady keeps singing !" Lien + extraits : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201554136.html Italian Crisis Boosts North On Alitalia January 28, 2008 The collapse of the Italian government is raising hopes among northern politicians that they will be able to block the sale of Alitalia to Air France-KLM, backed by the outgoing executive. Air France-KLM said on Friday -- a day after the government resigned after losing a key confidence vote -- that exclusive talks with state-controlled Alitalia would continue. But Lombardy region governor Roberto Formigoni has already called for any decision about Milan's Malpensa Airport, which lies in his territory, to be put on hold. Ils ont fait les libations ! Mais ils n'ont pas perdu le Nord ! Affaire politique, .... à l'italienne ! ------------- "The government should impose a moratorium of three years to Air France. If it does not, the north will bring people out on the streets," he told la Repubblica newspaper on Monday. Formigoni has expressed this view before, but the current absence of a politically-strong government makes it more likely that this time he will be heard. Oui ! C'est un 'appel à mouvement' / Les Français connaissent bien la rue, aussi ! Petit retour de manivelle ! "The boot is on the other foot !" ------------------------ On a visit to Milan on Monday, Italy's infrastructure minister, Antonio Di Pietro, reassured northern politicians that the deal was far from done and might not go through. "The Fat Lady keeps singing !" ------------------- "The sale of Alitalia cannot be left to the management alone, because they are only interested in raising as much money as possible," Di Pietro told a business audience. A slightly higher price, he said, would not compensate for the damages to the business network which revolves around the airport. Il a ses arguments ! Il les a peaufinés (pas difficle) ! -------------- Di Pietro has been reported in the past as being in favor of a rival offer from local airline Air One. Vraiment ! Oh, .... là, .... ça nous étonnerait ! --------------------- Di Pietro added that discussions with local authorities on Malpensa should resume quickly -- something demanded by northern businessmen and politicians, including Formigoni. Il a déjà été ecouté et entendu ! --------------- Under a plan already approved by Alitalia's board that Air France-KLM says it favors, the Italian airline plans to cut flights from Malpensa to 445 per week from the current 1,238. Politicians in northern Italy, where Malpensa is the major airport, are concerned about losing ground to Rome if the plan goes ahead. "The company is majority-held by the Treasury. If we do not have a minister then everything falls apart," said Northern League leader Umberto Bossi in Rome on Monday. C'est ça, ... l'Italie ! --------------- ................ (Reuters) (Message édité par sevrien le 03/04/2008 23h38) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 30 janvier 2008 09:49 | |
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Lien + extraits. http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201651891.html Italy Crisis May Speed Up Air France-Alitalia Talks January 30, 2008 Air France-KLM and Alitalia could speed up their exclusive talks for the Franco-Dutch airline to buy the Italian flagship carrier as they aim for a snap deal in case a new government takes charge in Italy. Oui, mais les Italiens savent faire de la résistance, pour empêcher cela ! Cette affaire est politique ! Les Italiens ne vont pas plus se laisser faire que l'Ertat français, si un prédateur non-françias vient croquer la SocGen ! Encore que,..... la meilleure chose que puisse faire SocGen, c'est se forger un partenariat avec un partenaire crédible, .... -- donc non français , à ce stade du jeu, en dehors de BNP-Paribas, ce qui poserait des problèmes d'ordre Anti-Trust, à éviter pour la Fance, à la veille des Présidence de l'UE (vous faites quoi de l'objecivité et de l'exemplarité, ... après l'exemple de SocGen, et sans que le monde externe ait oublié l'affaire du "Débit Lyonnais" " ? ).... -- ....et ici, après la demise de R. PRODI, l'italie, qui n'attendait que ça, ne va pas laisser se poursuivre les dossiers que Prodi a touchés ou agréés ! -------------------------- "The fact no one denied (a newspaper report that) Alitalia is aiming at closing quickly the talks with Air France-KLM, despite a government crisis, is very bad," snubbed suitor Air One said in a statement. ........................... "On top of an opaque selection process of the buyer, they may add an attempt to close the talks without a government of full political powers," Air One added. Voilà ! ------------------- "There are rumors spreading... that Alitalia's liquidity is falling. In September (Alitalia) said it had money to run the business for another 12 months, today they are not denying reports they have money until March," said Air One. On Monday, a source close to the talks said that current liquidity "will last a certain number of months, say between five and eight". AirOne connaît son dossier ! Vraiment , AF-KLM, n'a pas quelque chose de mieux à faire ? Renégocier ses accords avec GE, par exemple ? Plus terre-à -terre, mais bien plus urgent et important ! -------------- The government's collapse has raised hopes among northern politicians they may be able to block the sale to Air France-KLM ..... Air France-KLM's plan to scale down Malpensa would also result in thousands of job cuts in the area, local newspapers have reported. Evidemment ! Regardez la réaction en France contre MITTAL-ARCELOR / ARCELOR-MITTAL, ... pour bien moins ! Et MA/AM propose (i) plusieurs centaines de jobs à moins de 20kms de distance , dans son projet de développment, et (ii) "pas de licienciements secs" ! -------------------- (Reuters) (Message édité par sevrien le 30/01/2008 10h39) |
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 30 janvier 2008 15:37 | |
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http://www.aerospacemedia.com/site/afp. ... 43i7p8.xml Encore un doute dans le rapprochement d'AF/KLM et Alitalia Il faudra maintenant compter sur le nouveau gouvernement. Affaire pas encore fini....... |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 31 janvier 2008 02:46 | |
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Un article (FT) tout de même un peu plus sérieux. Lien + extraits : http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1a7fd0ae-cf70 ... fd2ac.html Pressure builds to review Alitalia sale By Guy Dinmore in Rome and Adrian Michaels in Milan Published & Last updated: January 30 2008 20:23 Italys next government will come under immediate pressure to review the planned sale of loss-making Alitalia to Air France-KLM and reopen negotiations with rival Air One, according to officials and industry sources. Analysts said the collapse last week of Romano Prodis centre-left coalition and the ensuing political uncertainty could throw open the attempted sale of the states 49.9 per cent stake, while Alitalias bankruptcy clock is ticking. Sans doute ! Les us et coutumes & précédents judiciaires en Italie ! .......................... People close to the situation say the Treasurys right to sign off on such a deal in the current climate could be tested in the courts. Oui ! C'est l'Italie ! C'et le jardin d'Italie, non pas celui d'AF-KLM ! -------------------- Procedures carried out by the finance ministry last year in selecting Air France-KLM for exclusive negotiations could also be challenged. Oui ! Menace de 'Vice de forme' ! "The Fat Lady ius still singing" -------------------- In the event of a new government everything has to be rediscussed, Alessandro Bianchi, the outgoing transport minister and a supporter of the failed Air One bid, told reporters yesterday. Pas totalement objectif, .... mais il n'a certainement pas tort, 'a priori' ! ----------------- ...... Air One, owned by entrepreneur Carlo Toto, is expected to call for its offer to be reconsidered and to be readmitted into negotiations while discussions with Air France-KLM continue. Une telle demande est une quasi-certitude. ----------------- People close to Air One said the airline is also expected to announce new partners in its consortium, and to rejig its financial offer...... ........................ Officials yesterday denied reports that the two airlines were speeding up the process because of the political uncertainty. But they also warned that Alitalia, which loses more than 1m ($1.49m) a day, would risk bankruptcy if a new owner was not found. ................ En effet ! La menance de la faillite est réelle et sérieuse ! ------------------- The fate of Alitalia could become an election issue in itself. In playing the Italian card and promising to reverse plans by Alitalia to slash flights at Milans Malpensa airport, Air One won the support of regional centre-right politicians as well as most of the trades unions and some ministers in Mr Prodis government. Il s'agit bien d'une patate chaude ! ------------------ Ministers in the outgoing centre-left government are extremely concerned about the damage to Italys reputation if the decision to give Air France-KLM exclusive negotiations were to be reversed within a matter of weeks. Analysts also question how patient Air France-KLM will be. Affaire compliquée ! Affaire à l'italienne ! (Message édité par sevrien le 31/01/2008 02h46) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 31 janvier 2008 09:41 | |
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Encore une 'contribution' sur le dossier Alitalia ! Lien + extrait : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201767044.html Air One Backer Says Alitalia Sale Open January 31, 2008 The head of Air One backer Intesa Sanpaolo told a newspaper the sale of Alitalia was up in the air as a government crisis threatens to delay its takeover by rival bidder Air France-KLM. "There are still many questions open so we don't think the game is over. Everything still has to be sorted out," Intesa Sanpaolo Chief Executive Corrado Passera told Corriere della Sera newspaper in an interview published on Thursday. "The Fat Lady's still singing" ! ----------------------- On the current political crisis following the resignation of Romano Prodi as prime minister last week, Passera -- in the past tipped as a possible finance minister in Prodi's administration by newspapers -- said all policymakers should take action. "It is certainly a key moment which needs all policymakers to make a move," he told the newspaper in an interview which focused on politics.............. ......................... (Message édité par sevrien le 31/01/2008 10h24) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 31 janvier 2008 23:30 | |
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Lien : http://www.air-cosmos.com/site/afp.php? ... mofevo.xml Air One dépose un recours contre la vente d'Alitalia à Air France MILAN, 31 jan 2008 (AFP) La compagnie italienne Air One a déposé un recours auprès d'un tribunal administratif contre la décision du gouvernement italien de négocier la vente d'Alitalia à Air France-KLM, a indiqué jeudi un porte-parole d'Air One. © 2008 AFP -------------- Autre lien : http://www.air-cosmos.com/site/afp.php? ... i7x76l.xml Air One dépose un recours pour pouvoir lancer une offre sur Alitalia MILAN (Italie), 31 jan 2008 (AFP) La compagnie italienne Air One a déposé un recours auprès d'un tribunal administratif de la région de Rome afin de pouvoir présenter une offre de reprise sur Alitalia concurrente d'Air France-KLM, a indiqué jeudi Air One dans un communiqué. © 2008 AFP --------------------- "The game's not over yet ! " (Message édité par sevrien le 31/01/2008 23h32) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 31 janvier 2008 23:34 | |
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Lien + extrait : http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ae07f04-d038 ... fd2ac.html Alitalia stake sale faces court delays By Guy Dinmore in Rome and Kevin Done in London Published: January 31 2008 20:51 | Last updated: January 31 2008 20:51 Drawn-out efforts by the Italian government to sell its 49.9 per cent stake in lossmaking Alitalia took another blow on Thursday when Air One, Italy’s largest private airline, launched a court appeal against the decision to rule it out of the bidding process. Government officials are concerned that Alitalia will be forced into bankruptcy within months if the proposed sale to Air France-KLM is delayed – either by court action or the political crisis surrounding the collapse of the centre-left government last week. The Alitalia board warned late on Wednesday that the airline’s operating margins had “worsened materially” from the projections made in the rescue plan adopted last August. It said it needed an emergency €750m ($1.1bn) injection of equity capital by the end of June in order to keep its dwindling cash reserves at “adequate operating levels”. ---------------- "The Fat Lady's still singing ! " Mais que fait AF-KLM là-dedans ? |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 1 février 2008 07:59 | |
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Lien + Extraits : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201821803.html Challenge juridique de la part d'Air One ! Pas question d'une attaque personnelle contre R. PRODI, mais les observateurs disent qu'il n'est pas étonnant que certains (surtout ces adversaires politiques en Italie) disent que R. PRODI est vraiment le champion "des débris laissés"! Objectivement parlant (et ceci est factuel, dans le domaine public, et dans l'intérêt public de toute l'UE), il est difficile de nier les faits reprochés par ses adversaires, qui précisent que le travail n'était pas fini, et qu'il y a laissé beaucoup de problèmes derrière lui ! --------------------- --------------------- L'article et ses extraits. Air One Sues To Seek Entry Into Alitalia Talks February 1, 2008 Italy's Air One said on Thursday it is suing over Alitalia's decision to pursue takeover talks exclusively with Air France-KLM, challenging the latest effort to sell the state-controlled carrier. "We don't want to halt the (Air France-Alitalia) talks. We also want to be able to present a binding offer," the source, who declined to be named said. [i]Malin ! Et la prise de position, et la démarche ! ....... Air One, Alitalia's closest domestic rival, said in a statement that it filed the lawsuit with a regional court in a bid to bring "transparency" to takeover process. "The appeal... is the only instrument we have to know the reasons why there weren't more transparent and non-discriminatory criteria" used in the bidding, it said. Ceci clarifie les griefs fondamentaux d'AirOne ! The legal twist could add uncertainty to the sale following the resignation of Prime Minister Romano Prodi, who backed the exclusive talks with Air France-KLM for the state's controlling 49.9 percent stake. The head of Intesa Sanpaolo, which is backing the Air One bid, said Alitalia's sale was now up in the air. "There are still many questions open so we don't think the game is over. Everything still has to be sorted out," Intesa Sanpaolo Chief Executive Officer Corrado Passera told Corriere della Sera newspaper in an interview. The Financial Times said Air One could relaunch its bid and quoted people close to the small domestic carrier saying it was expected to announce new partners. (Reuters) Oui ! L'affaire n'est pas terminée ! (Message édité par sevrien le 01/02/2008 08h11) |
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markymark3
Inscrit le 25/01/2008 |
# 1 février 2008 11:14 | |
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Air france/KLM n'était-il pas aussi intéressé pour racheter Iberia? Qu'en est-il? |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 1 février 2008 12:48 | |
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Lien + extrats : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201859708.html Alitalia Gives Up Slots At Malpensa February 1, 2008 Alitalia is giving up runway slots at Malpensa Airport, its northern Italy hub, raising the ire of a regional leader who has been fighting for the survival of the airport as well as the jobs and businesses that depend on it. Oh, là-là ! Cela ne se passera pas sans réaction ! ----------------------------- Malpensa serves Milan, the country's finance and fashion capital, and Italy's industrial north. Alitalia's decision, which comes as Air France-KLM is in exclusive talks to acquire the airline, could lead to the manager of the airport seeking a billion euros in damages, according to local newspapers. Eh, oui ! Tout ça se complique ! ------------------- ..... The finance ministry -- which control's the state's stake in Alitalia -- said in a statement it approved of the airline giving up the slots, a move which figured as part of the last restructuring plan before it entered talks with Air France-KLM. Postponing the move would be "incompatible with the delicate situation the company is in and with the exclusive talks with Air France-KLM," it said. "Moreover, it would expose Alitalia to legal actions by other airlines interested in the slots in question." ----------------------------------- But Roberto Formigoni, governor of the Lombardy region, was quoted by newspapers as saying Alitalia was killing the airport. Clairement, cela est sa perception sincère ! Beaucoup d'émotion dans tout ça ! , ----------------- Newspapers cited sources as saying SEA, the manager of Malpensa, could be considering taking legal action seeking a billion euros in damages should Alitalia give up the airport as a hub. Son action serait, sans doute, appuyée ! ----------------- The recent Italian government collapse has led opponents to the airline's sale to hope that a deal can be blocked. Air France-KLM has said it is going ahead with the talks. On Thursday Air One, the country's second biggest airline, said it was suing over Alitalia's decision to enter talks with Air France-KLM, in an effort to have its offer for the airline considered. (Reuters) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 2 février 2008 00:01 | |
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Les choses commencent à chauffer & à s'accélérer ! Il y a même du désagréable dans l'air ! The Fat Lady is singing more & more loudly " ! Lien + Extract : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201859708.html Malpensa Seeks EUR1.25 Bln Damages From Alitalia February 1, 2008 Alitalia faces a EUR1.25 billion euros (USD$1.86 billion) damages claim over plans to reduce flights at Milan's Malpensa Airport as the state airline struggles to keep its sale to Air France-KLM on track despite a rival's legal challenge. Italy's outgoing government has called a crisis meeting next week on the future of the Milan airport, whose operator SEA said it would seek EUR1.25 billion in damages because Alitalia would no longer be using it as a hub. Affaire politique à l'italienne ! ------------------- .......collapse of Italy's government last week and a legal challenge to the exclusive discussions by snubbed domestic rival Air One have cast uncertainty over the airline's sale. Air One, backed by Italy's largest retail bank Intesa Sanpaolo, has gone to court to try to annul the decision to talk to Air France-KLM, which had the blessing of the outgoing government. Ils ne restent pas le bras croisés ! Ils font comme dans une vraie démocratie! Ils donnent des coupe de pied au derrière du Gouvernement ! Normal ! Mince alors, vous ne saviez pas ? Un gouvernement, ... dans une vraie démocratie, ...est là pour faire ce que le peuple lui dit de faire ! Ce n'est pas le contraire ! Coluche a tout compris, ... lui ! Puis, avec ses origines italiennes, avant de nous quitter, .. il a dû repasser le virus aux Italiens ! Une démocratie, ... c'est le Gouvernement du peuple, par le peuple, ... pour le peuple ! Ce n'est pas pour les gars qui ont été 'sortis', et qui, même virés, veulent encore fermer ou affaiblir Malpensa, même si le truc à été mal pensé ! Et tout çe désordre pour le bénéfice d'AF-KLM ! Qu'est-ce que c'est que ce dirigisme à la noix ? Il faut du vrai dirigisme ! Mais si ! L'économie de marché ? Eh, oui ! On fait semblant d'y croire ! Tout ça, ce n'est qu'une affaire de Communication et de "Public Relations" ! Pour les oiseaux ! Pour la galerie, quoi ! Vous ne saviez pas ? Ah, bon ! Si, si ! Je vous assure, ... pour la galerie ! Et les media ! Faut toujours donner des miettes aux media ! Oui, "sans 's', et sans accent ! C'est un mot latin, .... déjà au pluriel , ... pluriel de "medium" ! Oui ! Dirigisme ! Regardez la France ! Dans tout le désordre du SocGen, le bon vieux dirigisme revient au galop, comme le naturel ! Tous les ingrédients sont là pour une bonne OPA, même un peu hostile, pour permettre un "link-up" entre une bonne banque hollandaise, ou britannique et la SocGen ! Et voilà le Président Sarkozy, ses conseillers et le Gouvernement, qui veulent tout de suite une bonne solution franco-française ! Comme dans le bon vieux temps (Vous vous en souvenez, surement ! Les années 1960, ...-70, ..-80, .... -90, .... et au 21ème siècle, même) ! Eh, oui ! un machin franco-français pour SocGen, ...pour la France, quoi ! Eh, bien, ... en même temps, un machin italo-italien pour Alitalia, ... pour l'Italie , quoi ? Normal ! C'est la réciprocité, ça ! C'est l'Europe ! [b]Mince alors : un peu de Bruxelles, et beaucoup plus de chez soi ! Charité bien ordonnée et tout ça ! -------------------- ................... But now politicians are trying to form a new administration that would focus on voting reform before a general election, putting the airline sale talks in doubt. Alitalia's planned flight cuts have irked politicians whose constituencies in the industrial north and Milan, the country's financial and fashion capital, are served by Malpensa. "This is how you kill Malpensa," said Roberto Formigoni, governor of the Lombardy region which includes the airport. Et ainsi de suite ! Madame ! Continuez à chanter ! "Keep singing" ! (Reuters) (Message édité par sevrien le 02/02/2008 01h41) (Message édité par sevrien le 05/03/2008 13h58) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 2 février 2008 09:07 | |
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Voilà que ça chauffe encore plus ! Menace mise à exécution ! Action en 'Dommages-intérêts' ! Lien : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1201859708.html Malpensa Seeks EUR1.25 Bln Damages From Alitalia February 1, 2008 Alitalia faces a EUR1.25 billion euros (USD$1.86 billion) damages claim over plans to reduce flights at Milan's Malpensa Airport as the state airline struggles to keep its sale to Air France-KLM on track despite a rival's legal challenge. Italy's outgoing government has called a crisis meeting next week on the future of the Milan airport, whose operator SEA said it would seek EUR1.25 billion in damages because Alitalia would no longer be using it as a hub. ------------- "Fat Lady sings louder" ! (Message édité par sevrien le 02/02/2008 09h07) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 4 février 2008 14:21 | |
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Encore et toujours de la politique dans le cockpit ! Liens & extraits : http://news.airwise.com/ Alitalia Sale On Track February 4, 2008 The privatization of Alitalia will go ahead despite a government collapse and legal challenges from a rival airline and Milan's airport, Italy's economy minister was reported as saying in a Sunday newspaper. Oui ! OK ! Mais qui privatisera ? AF-KLM, ou ... solution italienne (articulée autour d'AirOne )? Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, who remains head of the Treasury in a caretaker capacity after the fall of Romano Prodi's government last month, told Il Sole 24 Ore he was "firmly confident that this deal will conclude positively despite all these tensions". ------------------------ http://www.air-cosmos.com/site/afp.php? ... jkofn0.xml Air One 'ready soon' to make counter-offer for ailing Alitalia MILAN, Feb 4, 2008 (AFP) Italian airline Air One will be ready "soon" to make a counter-offer for Alitalia to avoid a takeover of the loss-making national flag carrier by Air France-KLM, the company said. © 2008 AFP (Message édité par sevrien le 04/02/2008 14h22) |
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