Que nous réserve l'année 2008 ?
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 18 juin 2008 17:53 | |
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Bonjour Le point de vue du Chicago Tribune ... qui n'engage qu'eux même ... Ils comparent les écos de fuel 737-300/737-800 1.4 M$ quand même ... Ce serait 2M $ avec un vrai NG !! Au prix catalogue 70 M$ de l'avion ... Alors que tout le monde sait qu'il se vend réellement moins de 50 M$  le 737-800-----------L'article --------------------- http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/ ... amp;csp=34 Which way is the wind blowing for Airbus, Boeing? Orders for new aircraft are starting to "tail off" for planemakers Boeing and Airbus, the Chicago Tribune (free registration) reports. But "what’s unclear," the paper writes, "is whether airlines are taking a breather after splurging on more than 7,300 new aircraft, or whether they are headed for a global shakeout that will force them to cancel or defer plane orders on a large scale." Some analysts predict dire consequences for Boeing and Airbus, saying "oil shock" and faltering economic conditions could present the companies with the double-whammy of declining plane orders and an increase in deferrals and cancellations on existing orders. But there doesn't seem to be a consensus, with other analysts predicting Boeing and Airbus will likely weather any upcoming crunch. "With such deep backlogs, whether a particular customer receives delivery of an aircraft next year or in three years is of little consequence to the [manufacturers]," Brian Studioso, a CreditSights aerospace analyst, is quoted as saying by the Tribune. Regardless of which way the market is headed, the Tribune takes an interesting look at orders for narrow-body jets, where newer models are much more fuel-efficient than older models. The Tribune writes a "Boeing 737-300, a model that United Airlines plans to park in large numbers later this year, burns nearly a gallon more per passenger seat per hour of flight time than the newer Boeing 737-800," according to Vince Kolber, president of Residco, a company the Tribune says "invests in aircraft and railroad equipment.' The Tribune adds that "over a year, that amounts to a $1.4 million savings for the newer jet, a large amount but probably not sufficient to cover financing costs for a plane with a $70.5 million list price, (Kolber) said." On that thought, the Tribune says some other analysts think "cash-strapped carriers will do the math and decide it is cheaper to stick with older planes, reducing the volume of replacement orders at the manufacturers." Still, many airlines -– including as American –- are still planning to press ahead with orders for new narrow-body jets. And Boeing marketing executive Randy Tinseth tells the Tribune that Boeing has already received 336 orders this year for its 737 model and that the company is still seeing "very strong demand for narrow-bodies around the world." JPRS Paris (Message édité par Beochien le 18/06/2008 17h54) _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 18 juin 2008 21:47 | |
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Bonsoir .. Air Canada dans le n'importe quoi ... Ca ne s'arrange pas côté dirigeants ! Ils veulent se séparer de leurs A330 ... mais n'ont pas de solution pour bridger ... avec les 787 en retard .... Pour ceux qui ont du courage ... http://uk.reuters.com/article/tnBasicIn ... 1720080618 JPRS Paris (Message édité par Beochien le 18/06/2008 21h47) _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 18 juin 2008 22:38 | |
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Bonjour Nouvelles de Lufthansa ... qq chose en complément de l'article Flight .. Les 737 s'en vont .. Les 748 arrivent avec les 787 sûrement et après les A380 !! Buchholz en remets un coup pour les 748 ... un besoin de se justifier bien souvent ..!! 350-787 ... de plus considérer le 787-10 comme présent dans la compétition ... bon ... le politique, on verra !! Il a du training pilotes dans l'air .. ---------------L'article ------------- http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=13049 Lufthansa to begin phasing out 737 Classics next year Wednesday June 18, 2008 Lufthansa will begin phasing out its 60-strong 737-300/-500 fleet by next year, with the -500s leaving by the end of 2009 and the remaining aircraft being retired by 2012, depending on market developments. LH owns 80% of its fleet. Nico Buchholz, who as senior VP-corporate fleet is responsible for 520 aircraft (plus those operating for partner airlines like Contact Air), told ATWOnline in Frankfurt that LH is selling an average of one aircraft per month. "But the number of new aircraft we are bringing into the fleet is higher," he said, adding that LH has up to 180 on order worth approximately €14 billion ($21.6 billion). Some incoming aircraft are replacements. A320s will replace the 737s and 747-8s will replace 747-400s, for example, although Executive VP-Operations Juergen Raps told this website that "If market development is good, then we will keep the -400s longer." Some of the 60 A320s on order will be transferred to Swiss International Air Lines to grow its fleet, with the remainder slated for mainline service. Buchholz expressed confidence that the 747-8 will be successful. "We need a 400-seat aircraft in the future," he said, claiming that engine commonality with the 787 will secure the aircraft's place in the mainline fleet. "The A350-1000 or 787-10 will not have the performance we need," he said. He added that in terms of regional aircraft, he and his team will look at Bombardier's CSeries as well as to emerging products in China, Russia and Japan. JPRS Paris (Message édité par Beochien le 19/06/2008 09h54) _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 19 juin 2008 08:57 | |
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Bonjour Petite histoire pêchée chez Airliners .. 1 747 Quantas retourne à Heathrow ... fumées à bord ... bon un incident habituel, disons, à égalité de fréquence avec les avaries de pare brise .... Noté : Seulement 76 pax à bord du 747 !! Et SIA qui fait 95% sur Heathrow-Singapore , et 80 % sur Sydney!! L' effet A380 sûrement !! Faudra essayer avec un 748, un jour pour vérifier l'acceptation  QQ'un de volontaire pour prendre ce risque JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 19 juin 2008 09:23 | |
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*$ DUPONT |
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poncho
Inscrit le 10/04/2008 |
# 19 juin 2008 09:28 | |
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Si on me l'offre Je suis volontaire Pas de préjugés  Pas encore.... du moins |
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 19 juin 2008 09:37 | |
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Franchement quitte à m'offrir quelque chose je prefererai une place dans un A380 |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 19 juin 2008 09:42 | |
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Bonjour Je crois que Quantas est anxieux de recevoir ses A380 !! Pour récupérer ses parts de marché !! Avis au JAPS et aux USA !! A ce soir ... JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 19 juin 2008 11:58 | |
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Bonjour Spanair invendable dans la conjoncture actuelle .... SAS reste avec !! http://feed.ne.cision.com/wpyfs/00/00/0 ... kr0003.pdf JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Rastapopoulos
Inscrit le 02/07/2007 |
# 20 juin 2008 11:58 | |
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Changement d'alliance aux USA http://fr.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080620/t ... 1e315.html |
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xmadflyer
Inscrit le 02/03/2008 |
# 20 juin 2008 12:47 | |
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Merci Rasta...los ! Il est question une fois de plus de +/- 100 MC retirés. La flotte de United : http://www.airfleets.net/fr/flottecie/U ... rlines.htm Boeing 737-300 62 Boeing 737-500 28 Airbus A319 55 Airbus A320 40 Quid de la filiale TED low fare qui a recupéré pas mal d'A320 ? |
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elmer
Inscrit le 27/09/2005 |
# 20 juin 2008 15:03 | |
| TED n'existe plus, les A320 sont revenus chez United, qui en compte 97 dans sa flotte. | ||
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 20 juin 2008 17:34 | |
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http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... -787s.html Monarch faces 30-month delay on 787s By Kieran Daly UK charter and scheduled carrier Monarch Airlines has emerged as one of the airlines facing the longest delays in delivery of its ordered Boeing 787s. The London Luton-based operator has six Rolls-Royce-powered 787-8s on order for delivery from late 2010 with four options, primarily as an Airbus A300-600 replacement. But addressing Commercial Aviation's Inside Air Finance conference in London this week, Monarch managing director Tim Jeans said: "We are in the worst part of the 787 delays. We are being told spring 2013 at best. The 787 was supposed to relieve the situation with the A300, which are not as reliable as we would like. "Just about everything has gone on to the back-burner. We have stood down the project team - just keeping a watching brief. And we won't revisit the financing for 12-18 months." Monarch is also looking for four to six Airbus A330s or Boeing 767s for the immediate future and is now exploring the possibilities for addressing that requirement and filling the gap left by the 787 delay. Jeans says: "A330s are like hens' teeth unless there are failures. There is no glut. The options are pretty limited. There is very little cascade of 767s and A330s from airlines. So for airlines like Monarch that will take a mix of new-build and used aircraft. It is not easy." He says Monarch will look to make a decision about filling the 787 gap in the last quarter of this year, and is sceptical about whether Boeing's moves to increase 767 output could be a solution. "It's interesting but I think we will be well down the list of Boeing's priorities for people to get those," he says. He is also interested in the possibility of securing new-build A330s as an interim solution if Airbus increases output. |
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gerfaut
Inscrit le 27/03/2008 |
# 20 juin 2008 20:05 | |
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Le 777, et les A330/340 à une moindre mesure, connaissent des problèmes de ramp-up à cause du sous- traitant allemand Sell. Il ne s' agit pas de grands retards mais c' est une nouvelle qui tombe plutôt mal en ce moment, les compagnies concernées (Qatar Airways et Emirates pour le B777) ayant sans doute besoin de leurs avions neufs. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... rways.html Je ne sais pas très bien ou mettre cet article qui concerne A & B, je l' ai donc mis là. _________________ "Je prends tout doucement les hommes comme ils sont, j' accoutume mon âme à souffrir ce qu' ils font" (Le Misanthrope, Molière) |
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vince
Inscrit le 17/05/2007 |
# 20 juin 2008 20:20 | |
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http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2008/06 ... -aile.html Pas encore la grosse bertha! L'Europe un peu désespérante mais surement ça ira mieux plus tard! |
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