Que nous réserve l'année 2008 ?
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 15 août 2008 10:48 | |
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Oui ! Skyteam bénéficie de largesses, qui avaient été 'politiquement' négociéé à l'époque de Monsieur GAYSSOT. Il ne faudrait pas Skyteam se plaigne ! ------------ Pour prolonger le saga, qui commence ! Lien : http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=13695 American, BA, Iberia, oneworld partners seal partnership, file for global ATI Friday August 15, 2008 Oneworld partners American Airlines, British Airways, Iberia, Finnair and Royal Jordanian yesterday confirmed that they filed for worldwide antitrust immunity from the US Dept. of Transportation and notified the appropriate regulatory authorities in the EU. The ATI application follows the signing of a "joint business agreement" among AA, BA and IB under which the trio will cooperate commercially on flights between North America and the EU, Switzerland and Norway. Their combined network will serve 443 destinations in 106 countries with 6,200 daily departures. The carriers stressed they will share revenue but not profit and will continue to operate as separate legal entities. However, BA and IB are discussing a potential merger (ATWOnline, July 30). Ceci est normal, compte tenu de la situation aujiourd'hi, et prévisible, ... sauf si les USA décident de bloquer ou de faire 'machine arrière' (ce que BA at ses partenaires ont prévu ! ). ---------------------------- "We believe our proposed cooperation is an important step towards ensuring that we can compete effectively with rival alliances and manage through the challenges of record fuel prices and growing economic concerns," AA parent AMR Chairman and CEO Gerard Arpey said. At present, oneworld is the only alliance not operating with some level of transatlantic ATI whereas six SkyTeam airlines and nine Star Alliance carriers enjoy such immunity. "This has put oneworld at a considerable disadvantage," oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch claimed. Oui ! BA et ses partenaires sont désavantagé inéquitablment ! Sous les seuls principes de "Equity Law", la demande de ce 'trio' devrait être agréée, sans conteste ! ------------------------- BA and American have applied twice for transatlantic ATI, in 1997 and 2001, but believe they now have a greater chance of success because the industry and competitive landscape have changed so fundamentally. "We are applying for EU-US antitrust immunity in a changed regulatory world where London Heathrow is open to any US or EU airline that wants to fly to the US and where rival alliances have immunity," BA CEO Willie Walsh stressed. Le commentaire de WW est juste. Indéniablment juste ! Il repose sur des faits précis, connus et irréfutables, et non pas sur une opinion dogmatique non étayée ! ------------------ "It will increase competition as the three global airline alliances will play under the same rules. We are taking a very important step towards consolidation which is necessary in today's aviation industry," IB Chairman and CEO Fernando Conte said. Oui ! ----------------- Virgin Atlantic Airways, which earlier this week stepped up its lobbying against the anticipated application of its main competitors at LHR (ATWOnline, Aug. 12), described the deal as a "monster monopoly," claiming it would "be bad for passengers, bad for competition, and bad for the UK and US aviation industry." Ce point de vue est recevable, .... mais non pas soutenable très longtemps ! C'est la réalité de la nouvelle donne (et non pas le théorie économique pure, "à la Branson"), qui doit être prise en compte ! Les protestations de Sir Richard BRANSON / Virgin Atlantic, ... que nous respectons tous, ... semblent moins bien résister à l'examen que par le passé ! ------------------ BA noted coolly that there "is nothing to stop Virgin applying for ATI if it found a suitable partner" and "nothing to stop Virgin increasing competition on any transatlantic route if it thinks consumers would welcome it." La réponse est excellente ! by Cathy Buyck ------------ Autres Liens : http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1218754941.html BA, American, Iberia Sign Transatlantic Deal August 14, 2008 British Airways, American Airlines and Spain's Iberia said on Thursday they have agreed to a transatlantic tie-up designed to make the partners more competitive in an increasingly global air travel market. The trio said it would file for antitrust immunity from the US Transportation Department later in the day and also planned to notify EU regulators................. --------------------------- http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... unity.html DATE:14/08/08. SOURCE:Flight International Oneword partners American, BA and Iberia file for anti-trust immunity By Graham Dunn Oneworld partners American Airlines, British Airways and Iberia will today file for anti-trust immunity from the US Department of Transportation for a joint agreement on flights between North America and Europe. Under the joint business agreement, the three airlines plan on co-operating commercially on flights between the USA, Mexico and Canada, and the European Union, Switzerland and Norway while continuing to operate as separate legal entities. They will expand their codeshare arrangements on flights within and beyond the EU and USA, significantly increasing the number of destination choices that the airlines can offer customers. Ce dernier point est très intéressant ! Normal ! Réactions ? (Message édité par sevrien le 15/08/2008 10h48) (Message édité par sevrien le 15/08/2008 18h53) |
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 15 août 2008 19:56 | |
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A lire en conjonction avec le post ci-dessus ! La colère de Sir Richard BRANSON, dans son opposition au projet AA, BA & Iberia ! Lien : http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/95a3766c-6a09 ... fd18c.html Branson attacks BA’s Iberia/AA plans By Kevin Done in London and Justin Baer in New York Published: August 14 2008 15:28 | Last updated: August 14 2008 20:46 Sir Richard Branson went on the attack on Thursday against his old adversary British Airways to try to block plans by the UK flag carrier to join forces with American Airlines and Spain’s Iberia across the North Atlantic. The three carriers, all members of the Oneworld global airline alliance, said they had signed a “joint business agreement” covering flights between North America and Europe...................... .................... |
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dupont
Inscrit le 17/09/2006 |
# 15 août 2008 23:09 | |
| Je ne vois pas pourquoi Mr branson doit pleurer si la commission européenne donne l'accord à la coopération entre BA-IBE-AA. Pourquoi doit il avoir peur de la concurrence ? Il aura des armes redoutables, il a commandé des A340-600 et des A380. | ||
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sevrien
Inscrit le 08/08/2006 |
# 15 août 2008 23:11 | |
| Je ne prends fait et cause pour personne ! Je n'ai fait que transmettre l'autre point de vue ! | ||
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vince
Inscrit le 17/05/2007 |
# 15 août 2008 23:16 | |
Il pourrait même un jour avoir un 787 |
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 16 août 2008 10:28 | |
Delais 30 mois |
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run380
Inscrit le 25/09/2005 |
# 16 août 2008 15:31 | |
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branson peus avoir les avion meilleur aux monde ..seul problème pour lui et sa compagnie ...c'est d'arriver a les remplir correctement ? ... singapour airliners veut sortir du capital de VS ..qu'ils jugent non rentable (Message édité par run380 le 16/08/2008 15h33) |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 17 août 2008 11:17 | |
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Bonjour Alafco va bien !! Qq locations de A320 pour Saoudia ? Et un point intéressant (A vérifier) Du négoce sur des B787 ??? ----------------Extrait du Kuwait Time ----------------- http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.ph ... kzMTYzMTQx ALAFCO plans to deliver 13 Airbus A320s on lease to Saudia in the next two years and four Boeing B787 aircraft beginning 2014, it said. The aircraft would be delivered to the Airlines in 2009-2010. The agreement included another $2.7 billion sealed deal to lease and purchase 17 aircraft, ALAFCO Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Alzabin said in the statement. Pursuant to the signed agreements, ALAFCO will deliver to Saudi Arabian Airlines 13 Airbus A320-200 aircraft on lease within the next two years and four Boeing B787-9 Dreamliner aircraft on lease in 2012, Alzabin said, adding that eight Boeing B787-9 aircraft will be sold to the Airlines with deliveries starting in 2014 and ending in 2015. Vendus ou loués ces 787 ?? JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 17 août 2008 11:37 | |
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Bonjour Ca chauffe chez Boeing !! CôtéUnion ! Aprés s'être fait avoir lors des 2 dernières négotiations, les Unions bénéficient d'un boulevard pour récupérer intérêts et capital ! Sport et spectacle garanti en Septembre !! -------------Du seattle PI, Quote:J Wallace --------------- http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/aerospace/ The Machinists union has struck Boeing six times since 1948, the most recent a monthlong walkout before the current contract was reached in 2005. In 2002, union members rejected Boeing's final offer but could not muster the 66 percent approval needed for a strike. Last month, thousands of Boeing machinists who assemble the company's jetliners met at KeyArena in Seattle and voted by about 99 percent to authorize their union to strike if a new labor contract can't be reached. Union leaders are demanding a much bigger share of the company's success of the past three years. As is always the case, wages, medical benefits and pensions are key issues. The union is seeking a general wage increase for every year of the contract. One of the biggest battles is over Boeing's proposal to have an "enhanced" 401(k) plan that would replace a defined benefit plan for new hires. The union's motto during contract talks is: "It's our time this time.'' "It's payback time,'' one union leader, Mark Blondin, recently told the P-I. He is the union's lead negotiator. Blondin said the union will hold firm on pensions and medical benefits and a good wage increase for each year of the contract. "We have the leverage now that the company had in 2002 and in 2005," he said in last month's interview. "And we are going to use it. They are going to have to pay up to get an agreement from this membership. A lot of our members have it in their gut that it's payback time." Boeing must also negotiate a new labor contract with the Society of Professional Engineering Employees in Aerospace (SPEEA), the union that represents Boeing engineers and technical workers. The current SPEEA contract ends in early December. JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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elmer
Inscrit le 27/09/2005 |
# 17 août 2008 13:11 | |
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Alafco va bien !! Qq locations de A320 pour Saoudia ? Et un point intéressant (A vérifier) Du négoce sur des B787 ??? ----------------Extrait du Kuwait Time ----------------- http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.ph ... kzMTYzMTQx ALAFCO plans to deliver 13 Airbus A320s on lease to Saudia in the next two years and four Boeing B787 aircraft beginning 2014, it said. The aircraft would be delivered to the Airlines in 2009-2010. The agreement included another $2.7 billion sealed deal to lease and purchase 17 aircraft, ALAFCO Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Ahmad Alzabin said in the statement. Pursuant to the signed agreements, ALAFCO will deliver to Saudi Arabian Airlines 13 Airbus A320-200 aircraft on lease within the next two years and four Boeing B787-9 Dreamliner aircraft on lease in 2012, Alzabin said, adding that eight Boeing B787-9 aircraft will be sold to the Airlines with deliveries starting in 2014 and ending in 2015. Vendus ou loués ces 787 ?? JPRS Paris http://www.aerocontact.com/news/ac_news ... p?ID=07092 Alafco avait commandé 22 787 en 2006 et 2007 dans le but de les louer à Kuwait Airways. Le contrat est tombé à l'eau suite au désaccord du gouvernement koweitien et Alafco s'est retrouvé avec ces avions sur les bras, sans assurance de pouvoir tous les louer. Comme Saudi Arabian recherchait des slots pas trop éloignés dans le temps, chacun y trouve son compte. |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 17 août 2008 13:21 | |
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Merci Elmer ! Un second marché pour les slots 787 ! Intéressant ... ! _________________ JPRS |
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lequebecois
Inscrit le 11/02/2007 |
# 18 août 2008 01:34 | |
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Kawasaki étudie la possibilité de lancer une famille de monocouloirs de 95-150 pax d'ici une dizaine d'année. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... annel=awst _________________ Le bonheur est une pause entre deux emmerdes ! Adepte de la discutaille du coin du comptoir du café de la gare |
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vonrichthoffen
Inscrit le 07/08/2006 |
# 18 août 2008 10:28 | |
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L'article dit que ce serait un dérivé du XP-1 mais le XP est un quadriréacteur, dérivé du P-3 Orion et équipé de réacteurs IHI. Ce serait plutôt un dérivé du CX, non ? Le CX est équipé de deux CF-6, ça correspondrait plus. Le XP a les ailes basses, pas vraiment l'idéal pour s'affranchir des problèmes de garde-au-sol en cas de remotorisation avec du GFT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tFG4rIPEXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GZ10bk3ySg (Message édité par vonrichthoffen le 18/08/2008 17h06) |
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pascal83
Inscrit le 18/07/2007 |
# 18 août 2008 21:35 | |
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http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... -exit.html Virgin Atlantic veut vendre les 49% de virgin nigeria afin de recentrer son activité sur le LC |
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lequebecois
Inscrit le 11/02/2007 |
# 19 août 2008 16:35 | |
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Jon Ostrower (Flightblogger) se demande si Boeing espère une grève de ses machinistes comme prétexte pour un retard supplémentaire du Dreamliner. Il dit également qu'un GTF adapté pour l'A380 ou un 777 nécessiterait un diamètre de soufflante de 140-150 pouces (wow !!!). Le tout agrémenté d'un vidéo promotionnel de GE sur les Olympiques avec un 787 Dreamliner (avec des GEnx bien sur !!!) http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fligh ... pen-t.html _________________ Le bonheur est une pause entre deux emmerdes ! Adepte de la discutaille du coin du comptoir du café de la gare |
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