Que nous réserve l'année 2008 ?
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xmadflyer
Inscrit le 02/03/2008 |
# 23 octobre 2008 22:01 | |
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Ben...quand on parle du loup. AF se retire de l'offre sur Austrian, trop cher... Air France-KLM has opted not to bid for Austrian Airlines, with questions being raised about the price for the airline, given difficult economic conditions; AUA recently warned of higher full-year losses. Lufthansa submitted a bid, but Russia’s S7, which also had been in the running, did not, and it is uncertain how the carrier will proceed, according to reports. Officials for S7 couldn’t immediately be reached for comment. However, the airline S7 recently announced a partnership with Air Berlin and Austria’s Niki through a code-share agreement, already giving it exposure to the region without buying into AUA. Prospective buyers had to submit bids for Austrian Airlines yesterday, with final prices due by the end of the week. The Austrian government owns 42.75%. The government is cleared to sell 100% of its holding, as long as Austrian interests retain 25% (plus one share) in the shareholding structure. http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... T10228.xml Bon, LHA un peu partout, avec beaucoup d'argent !!  |
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gerfaut
Inscrit le 27/03/2008 |
# 23 octobre 2008 22:26 | |
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Donc Austrian pour Lufthansa et Alitalia pour AF-KLM ? _________________ "Je prends tout doucement les hommes comme ils sont, j' accoutume mon âme à souffrir ce qu' ils font" (Le Misanthrope, Molière) |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 23 octobre 2008 22:44 | |
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Wait & See ! Gerfaut ! Voir rubrique débats ! Des mots, pour l'instant ! Et SAS + Spanair tjrs à vendre ?? Négotiations exclusives avec LHA ! Pour l'instant aussi ! Et Quid de Midlands !! Et la Ex "Sabena" repris par LHA! pas trop cher, mais ça va coûter un peu la MAJ de la cie !! Plus d'airliners à absorber sur le marché, que de € dispo (Ou a risquer) Et l'appui des Banques ... loin d'être assuré ! Attendre pour les majeures, pourrait être la bonne solution! Ca va encore baisser !  Ma conclusion today ! Tout est trop cher... ou .... contraignant !! JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 23 octobre 2008 22:56 | |
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J'avais cela sous le coude du Seattle PI, JamesWallace ! Un fournisseur majeur de Boeing, Goodrich, mets les chose au point ! Le 787, c'est pour 2010 !! Bon, rien d'extraordinaire, mais c'est mieux quand c'est dit ! Et le 787-9 pourrait bien sortir en même temps que le A350-9, à mon avis ! Et Berstein en remets une couche bien inquiètante ! Boeing, risque d'avoir du mal à se cacher derrière "Sa" grève pour échapper aux pénalités supplémentaires .... --------------------------------------------- Des phrases de chez A.net .... Que les négotiations reprennent sous les auspices du médiateur ... oui ! Aucune des parties ne pouvait dire ... Non ! Mais la revendication principale today , l'outsourcing, est toujours à 180° !! Et ... les ingénieurs, ont la même pour le 1° décembre !! ---------- Bon , ------- Extrait du Seattle PI -------------- http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/aerospace/ October 23, 2008 Print thisE-mail this Goodrich CEO: 787 delayed by strike The chief executive of Goodrich Corp. said Thursday he expects first deliveries of Boeing's 787 Dreamliner to be delayed until so late into 2009 that the plane won't enter service with airlines until early 2010 as a result of the Machinists strike, now in its 48th day. Before the strike, All Nippon Airways, first customer for the plane, said Boeing had promised the plane would be delivered around Aug. 15. That's about 15 months late. The initial deliveries were to begin in May of this year before a series of production and supply chain issues forced the slippage in the 787 schedule. In a call with analysts to report on earnings, Goodrich Chief Executive Marshall Larsen said: "We're not counting on (787) deliveries for Goodrich until towards the end of '09, which means that they won't have airplanes into service until 2010. And then...like any new program, it takes a while to build up the rate." North Carolina-based Goodrich supplies the electric brakes, engine housings, thrust reversers, exterior lighting and cargo-handling systems for the Dreamliner. Boeing CEO Jim McNerney said Wednesday Boeing won't update the status of the 787 until after the strike ends. Boeing and union leaders are meeting Thursday in Washington, D.C. and have said there will be a news blackout until a deal is struck or the talks end without an agreement. I also found this in a report issued Thursday by Doug Harned, an analyst who follows Boeing for BersteinResearch. I thought he raised a very interesting point re penalty payments and the eventual sorting out of what's the result of the strike -- or not the strike. Management has said that each day of the strike represents a day of delay on the 787. The company and its suppliers, however, continue to work on the airplane even during the strike. We have already assumed that first deliveries are delayed until Q1 2010. Our understanding from suppliers is that weight remains a substantial issue for the program. Unlike current production programs in which a strike delay does not result in penalties, we believe that additional penalties are likely if this airplane is not delivered on schedule because it will be difficult to demonstrate that it was the strike rather than other problems that led to the delay. JPRS Paris (Message édité par Beochien le 23/10/2008 22h58) _________________ JPRS |
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gerfaut
Inscrit le 27/03/2008 |
# 24 octobre 2008 15:45 | |
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Le traffic aérien asiatique marque le pas à l' image de l' économie de la région http://www.leblogenergie.com/2008/10/le ... arien.html _________________ "Je prends tout doucement les hommes comme ils sont, j' accoutume mon âme à souffrir ce qu' ils font" (Le Misanthrope, Molière) |
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xmadflyer
Inscrit le 02/03/2008 |
# 24 octobre 2008 22:58 | |
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Vought pourrait fermet temporairement son usine de Charleston Strike may shut down 787 plant James Wallace du Seattle P.I. Texas-based Vought, which builds much of the 787 aft fuselage at a plant in Charleston, S.C., said Friday it might have to temporarily close the plant because of the Boeing strike. Meanwhile, Vought will suspend its 787 composite fabrications at the facility, the company said. "Given that Vought has already fabricated enough barrels to support deliveries through airplane 19, the company must continue to slow its production rate and take the necessary actions across the program,'' the company said in a statement. " Up until now, Vought has only released most of its outside assembly contractor workforce. Today, in addition to continuing this action, the company announced it is suspending its 787 composite bond fabrication operations, which will affect production and production support personnel. Assembly employees will also be redeployed to concentrate on existing fuselages closest to completion.'' Over the next 30 days, Vought said, it will take additional actions related to its 787 work, including "the possible temporary shutdown of the entire plant.'' http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/aerospace/ En France, ce sont Labinal ( cablage ), Radiall ( connectique ), Latécoère ( structures ) Messier-Dowty, Messier-Bugatti ( trains ) Qui sont impactés. http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2008/09 ... seurs-.php (Message édité par xmadflyer le 24/10/2008 22h59) |
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kaysersoeze
Inscrit le 24/08/2007 |
# 24 octobre 2008 23:07 | |
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oui, beaucoup d'argent. n'oublions pas que la strategie du prédateur a fait couler le Sair group (Swissair) en 2001 après avoirs acheté (ou pris des participations) dans de nombreuses compagnies moyennes (Sabena, aom-air liberté, etc..) Je pense donc que AF-KLM fait bien d'être prudente et de pas "acheter à tout va" |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 24 octobre 2008 23:29 | |
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Merci Xmad !! Sûr que Vought n'est pas le seul ... Et une question doit bien les tarauder ! En est on au dernier épisode !!  S'il faut revoir un jour certaines structures ... où vat' on ??? Va falloir demander conseils et audits aux fournisseurs du A380 ! Et quand un "Airframer" vous demande de la réactivité ... que réponds t'on ! Le site ne présente pas les émoticons adéquats ! Saludos JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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lequebecois
Inscrit le 11/02/2007 |
# 24 octobre 2008 23:54 | |
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H211, une société appartenant aux fondateurs de Google, vient de se payer un 5e avions, un Alpha Jet. Il s'ajoute au Boeing 757, Boeing 767 et aux 2 Gulfstream V. http://www.gizmodo.fr/2008/10/24/google ... ction.html _________________ Le bonheur est une pause entre deux emmerdes ! Adepte de la discutaille du coin du comptoir du café de la gare |
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xmadflyer
Inscrit le 02/03/2008 |
# 25 octobre 2008 13:09 | |
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Absorption de Karthago par NouvelAir Tunisie Karthago to be Nouvelair subsidiary under Tunisian tie-up By David Kaminski-Morrow Merger of the private Tunisian carriers Nouvelair and Karthago Airlines will take the form of a share exchange, resulting in Karthago's becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of Nouvelair. But flag carrier Tunisair will not participate in the combination of the two airlines. Tunisian transport minister Abderrahim Zouari formally revealed the plan this week at the Arab Air Carriers Organisation conference in Tunis. Karthago Airlines general manager Hedi Addassi says the merger should be concluded in November. Nouvelair is based in Monastir and operates Airbus A320-family aircraft, while Tunis-based Karthago has Boeing 737s. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ie-up.html Karthago, la flotte: 6 B737-300 http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Kart ... rlines.htm http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... amp;nseq=3 Nouvel Air, la flotte : 10 Airbus A320-200, 2 A321 http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Nouvelair.htm http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... amp;nseq=6 (Message édité par xmadflyer le 25/10/2008 13h10) |
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lequebecois
Inscrit le 11/02/2007 |
# 26 octobre 2008 02:08 | |
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Embraer fait actuellement des essais afin de certifier l'E-190 pour London City. L'E-170 est déjà certifié pour les approche rapide. http://news.cheapflights.co.uk/flights/ ... -city.html _________________ Le bonheur est une pause entre deux emmerdes ! Adepte de la discutaille du coin du comptoir du café de la gare |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 26 octobre 2008 12:41 | |
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Bonjour Du Seattle Times ! La seule (Presque) bonne nouvelle, concernant la grève chez Boeing ... est qu'il n'y à pas de nouvelles ! Rencontre ce dimanche encore, pour le 4eme jour consécutif ... C'est la bonne nouvelle ! la dernière rencontre n'avait duré que 2 jours !! Outsourcing, contre niveaux de paye exhorbitants à Everett ... le match continue à huis clos ! A mon avis, si les points de vue se rapprochent, notamment sur l'"outsourcing" cela pourrait servir de base pour éviter la grève des Ingénieurs qui pourrait débuter en décembre ! Noter quand même que Boeing ne se prive pas d'agiter des nouvelles ... de décentalisations vers le Sud USA, une économie de 10$/ heure sans sortir des USA ! Pas forcément à Mobile d'ailleurs !! texas, Virginia etc ... -------------------- L'article --------------------- http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b ... cation=rss Boeing, Machinists to continue strike talks Sunday Boeing and the Machinists union plan a fourth day of meetings Sunday in efforts to end the strike that has idled 27,000 union members since Sept. 6. By Seattle Times staff Boeing and the Machinists union plan a fourth day of meetings Sunday in efforts to end the strike that has idled 27,000 union members since Sept. 6. A statement on the Local 751 website Saturday evening said, "Union negotiators continued meeting with the federal mediators and Company negotiators throughout Saturday and into the evening with additional talks scheduled for Sunday." The company and union have agreed not to disclose details of their talks. A previous round of negotiations began Oct. 13 but broke off after just two days. Copyright © 2008 The Seattle Times Company (Message édité par Beochien le 26/10/2008 12h45) _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 26 octobre 2008 13:15 | |
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Jet Airways et Kkingfisher réduisent la voilure (Et les payes de pilotes) au milieu de la tempête ! DEA Jamais trés loin du marché indien ... pour proposer des Lease-back ! --------------- Extraits Variés ------------------ http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Fea ... 641804.cms “Reconsideration of our operations has been ongoing for some time now and this adjustment in personnel numbers did not result from the planned alliance with Kingfisher Airlines. If at all, improved economies in other areas would obviate such steps in future,” said a senior airline official. The latest decision comes on the heels of the voluntary retirement scheme offered by the airline to 687 staff of JetLite, its 100% subsidiary, which was taken up by 387 personnel. According to sources, these were exceptional times and company has put its fleet expansion on hold, curtailed flights and grounded some aircraft as well. Kingfisher Airlines The turbulence in the air is evident from the fact that two major airlines, Jet Airways and Kingfisher Airlines, had to announce an agreement to the formation of an alliance of wide-ranging proportions that will help both carriers to significantly rationalise and reduce costs and provide improved standards of service and a wider choice of air travel options to consumers with immediate effect. After Jet Airways gave pink slip to many of its staff, Kingfisher followed with reduction the salary of its co-pilots. ----------- Et un appel de fonds ! http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/200 ... 160700.htm An analyst with a brokerage firm who did not wish to be named also said group companies such as United Spirits and United Breweries have their own funding requirements and are on an expansion mode, and hence diverting funds from some of these companies may not be in the interest of the shareholders of these companies. United Spirits needs at least $140 million for its own funding requirements for the next 18-24 months and it also needs to pay back about £535 million it raised as debt to acquire Whyte & Mackay in mid-2007. However, the company does not have to start paying back the debt till mid-2010. The head of research for Angel Broking, Mr Hitesh Agarwal, said that instead of sourcing funds from group companies, the promoters of the airline should raise funds through equity dilution or through debt. “The shareholders of other group companies may not be too keen on funding a company which has been bleeding for sometime,” Mr Agarwal said. Raising funds Kingfisher Airlines is already in talks with a few PE Funds to raise about $400 million through equity dilution. It may now become easier for the airline to raise funds after its recent alliance with Jet Airways. IDFC SSKI Securities has in its report quoting the management of United Spirits Ltd (USL) said that there has been no inter group funding and hence the risk to the balance sheet of United Spirits (USL) was minimal. “We believe that the recent fall in USL’s stock price was mainly on the back of perceived operational concerns (volume growth, molasses prices, IPL losses) as indeed non-operational concerns (impact on USL’s balance sheet for funding Kingfisher Airlines),” the report said. ------------- Et .... Merci DEA (Mais à quel prix ??) http://www.ameinfo.com/172909.html DAE in Airbus deal United Arab Emirates: 7 hours, 24 minutes ago Dubai Aerospace Enterprise has concluded a deal with Indian carrier Kingfisher to acquire three new Airbus planes on a sale and leaseback deal. Nouveaux Avions, je ne crois pas, avions déjà en cde prodablement merci DEA ! ---------------- JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 26 octobre 2008 14:01 | |
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Bonjour Noté du 15/10 Flight Global ... Peut être déjà vu ... Il pourrait manquer 20-25 milliards de financement, sur les 70 millards $ nécessaires pour assurer la livraison aux clients des 900 avions prévus par A et B pour 2009 ! 1/3 en gros, soit 300 Avions en valeur !! Va falloir compter avec les fonds et financements opportunistes (Et chers, ou compromettants) ou les garanties Coface, Eximport, etc, pour que les Airliners s'en sortent ! ----------- L'article Flight Global du 15/10, Extrait --------- http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/20 ... ction.html But Flight's Commercial Aviation Online reports that at this week's International Society of Transport Aircraft Trading (ISTAT) European conference in Prague, senior executives from International Lease Finance and CIT Aerospace became the first high-profile customers to urge a rethink on output levels. "Boeing and Airbus should take a look at eventsand take a serious look at production rates," said ILFC president John Plueger. He likened the current state of the financial crisis to a "patient in an emergency room with shock pedals being applied". Jeffrey Knittel, president of CIT, echoed Plueger's production concerns: "This is the time to pull back and lower [production] rates," he said, because the market "can see clouds on the horizon". He added that the strike at Boeing is "helpful" as it is reducing the flow of aircraft into the market. Knittel also warned that the aviation industry is facing an unprecedented challenge in raising capital. "This is the first time we are talking about the availability of capital instead of price," he said. "Historically, we have paid more to get capital, but the reality iswill there be enough capital for the delivery of airplanes?" He added: "No-one can say where the capital is coming from or how it will work." Jose Abramovici, global head of aviation and rail finance for French bank Calyon, told the ISTAT conference that he anticipated a $20-25 billion funding gap next year. Of the $70 billion in financing needs in 2009, $15 billion will be made up of cash contributions, he said. This leaves $55 billion in financing in which Abramovici anticipated export credit agencies would contribute $15 billion and aviation banks $15-$20 billion. Abramovici believed that several sources could step in to fund the shortage including sovereign banks, sovereign funds, hedge funds and manufacturer financing. Bon ... Si chacun y mets du sien .... Sauf que ce n'est que pour 2009 !! il restera au moins 2010-11 à sauver aussi !JPRS Paris _________________ JPRS |
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Beochien
Inscrit le 13/02/2007 |
# 26 octobre 2008 20:43 | |
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Bonsoir ! La grève Boeing ! Pas de nouvelles ce WE ! Ca négocie, quand même ! Vought, largement impliqué dans les retards du 787 ... n'a plus de boulot à Charleston ! Et se défait de contractistes, et d'employés bientôt, et pourrait même fermer qq temps ! Un accordéon, qui multiplié par de nombreux fournisseurs, pourrait bien rendre 2009 encore plus difficile pour Boeing ! Imaginer encore une learning curve, avec de nouveaux employés .... chez Vought, dans 6 mois ! Scaring ! ----------- Un Chaos de plus à la vista pour le ramp up du B787 ?? Ou un retard bénéfique aux mises au point de Boeing et de ses fournisseurs ... Dont RR un peu en retard pour les T° des chambres du T1000 par rapport au GEnx (C'est du moins dans le Buzz) un petit % de conso en "Cruise" qui se promène, partiellement ratrappé par de meilleures perfs en montée ! ------------- L'article sur Vought ---------------- http://www.columbian.com/article/200810 ... 86/-1/NEWS Ongoing Boeing strike leads to cuts at SC plant Sunday, October 26 | 11:15 a.m. A South Carolina supplier for Boeing Co. says it will lay off 50 workers, has dismissed 65 contractors and may temporarily shut down because of an ongoing strike at the Seattle-based airplane manufacturer. Vought Aircraft Industries Inc. told The Post and Courier of Charleston on Friday workers will continue to receive benefits through November. Not including contractors, Vought had 300 employees on its North Charleston payroll two months ago. Last week, Boeing reported a 38 percent decrease in earnings because of the strike that began Sept. 6 and has been estimated to cost $100 million a day in deferred revenue and production delays on the 787 Dreamliner. Dallas-based Vought makes the aft section of the 787 fuselage in North Charleston. JPRS Paris (Message édité par Beochien le 26/10/2008 20h44) _________________ JPRS |
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